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Title: Population Density - and other things
Post by: lew on August 28, 2014, 03:02:59 pm
This won't have information for everyone, but I found it useful. You can pull up population density and other data for areas and be quite specific about it. All of the info is from the ABS, and you can always get the info direct form them, but it can be messy. I am in a population bubble, 1 street a klm long with an average of 14 people per square klm, across the road from me it is 1 person per 10 square kilometres and the average population in my vicinity is 8 people per 10 square kilometres, and surround that, nothing, ocean on one side and tens of thousands of acres of national parks on the other. So if roads are blocked or there is no fuel I can see how big my potential problem is, instinct says a lower population in my immediate vicinity would be better, but then I am harder to get to than any others so not an immediate target.
http://atlas.id.com.au/ (http://atlas.id.com.au/)
Like I said, won't help everyone, but maybe useful to some.
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: mrbrown2607 on November 17, 2014, 04:58:48 pm
Nice I'm always interested in data related to various elements of society.

I closely follow ABS but often find their releases to be unformulated and difficult to manipulate.

Anyone else found sources for these types of data?
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: self-sufficient on June 09, 2015, 04:08:40 pm
I got  this data for my offgrid house. I don't think its to crowded.

Density  Population   Hectares
0.08            448           5720.62

Kurt
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: Gideon on June 09, 2015, 05:35:57 pm
My data:

SA1           Density   Population   Hectares
4106607   8.13           264           32.46
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: Gympiegoat on April 27, 2018, 07:38:40 am
British social scientist with good track record of plotting social trends says we are doomed.



https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/26/were-doomed-mayer-hillman-on-the-climate-reality-no-one-else-will-dare-mention (https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/apr/26/were-doomed-mayer-hillman-on-the-climate-reality-no-one-else-will-dare-mention)

Can civilisation prolong its life until the end of this century? “It depends on what we are prepared to do.” He fears it will be a long time before we take proportionate action to stop climatic calamity. “Standing in the way is capitalism. Can you imagine the global airline industry being dismantled when hundreds of new runways are being built right now all over the world? It’s almost as if we’re deliberately attempting to defy nature. We’re doing the reverse of what we should be doing, with everybody’s silent acquiescence, and nobody’s batting an eyelid.”
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: Gympiegoat on April 27, 2018, 05:31:36 pm
Some of you may remember Barry Commoner the US cellular biologist who ran in the US presidential race back in the 80's.

Here is something that he stated that is just as pertinent today & ties in with the above post & looking after our environment.

wikipedia

Barry Commoner (May 28, 1917 – September 30, 2012) was an American cellular biologist, college professor, and politician. He was a leading ecologist and among the founders of the modern environmental movement. He was the director of the Critical Genetics Project and the Center for Biology of Natural Systems. [1] He ran as the Citizens Party candidate in the 1980 U.S. presidential election.[2] His work studying the radioactive fallout from nuclear weapons testing lead to the Nuclear Test Ban Treaty of 1963.[3]

The Closing Circle

In his 1971 bestselling book The Closing Circle, Commoner suggested that the American economy should be restructured to conform to the unbending laws of ecology.[12] For example, he argued that polluting products (like detergents or synthetic textiles) should be replaced with natural products (like soap or cotton and wool).[12] This book was one of the first to bring the idea of sustainability to a mass audience.[12] Commoner suggested a left-wing, eco-socialist response to the limits to growth thesis, postulating that capitalist technologies were chiefly responsible for environmental degradation, as opposed to population pressures. He had a long-running debate with Paul R. Ehrlich, author of The Population Bomb and his followers, arguing that they were too focused on overpopulation as the source of environmental problems, and that their proposed solutions were politically unacceptable because of the coercion that they implied, and because the cost would fall disproportionately on the poor. He believed that technological, and above all, social, development would lead to a natural decrease in both population growth and environmental damage.[13]

One of Commoner's lasting legacies is his four laws of ecology, as written in The Closing Circle in 1971.[14] The four laws are:[15]

Everything is connected to everything else. There is one ecosphere for all living organisms and what affects one, affects all.
Everything must go somewhere. There is no "waste" in nature and there is no "away" to which things can be thrown.
Nature knows best. Humankind has fashioned technology to improve upon nature, but such change in a natural system is, says Commoner, "likely to be detrimental to that system"
There is no such thing as a free lunch. Exploitation of nature will inevitably involve the conversion of resources from useful to useless forms.
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: OzHippy on April 28, 2018, 11:56:52 am
What is going to be a big factor in bringing on a SHTF event is not population density but demographics.  All developed countries now have a declining birth rate - all the money invested by the pensioners is no longer working with very low interest rates - and cost of supporting an ever increasing elderly population is crashing the global system. 


In japan they sell more adult dippers than baby diapers - there is a big demographic crash coming as the elderly don't buy houses and cars and spending other than medical expenses is very restricted.   
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: Arkane on April 28, 2018, 12:34:31 pm
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What is going to be a big factor in bringing on a SHTF event is not population density but demographics.  All developed countries now have a declining birth rate - all the money invested by the pensioners is no longer working with very low interest rates - and cost of supporting an ever increasing elderly population is crashing the global system. 


In japan they sell more adult dippers than baby diapers - there is a big demographic crash coming as the elderly don't buy houses and cars and spending other than medical expenses is very restricted.

So maybe we should invest in adult diaper companies? and get out of real estate!
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: OzHippy on April 29, 2018, 08:55:13 am
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What is going to be a big factor in bringing on a SHTF event is not population density but demographics.  All developed countries now have a declining birth rate - all the money invested by the pensioners is no longer working with very low interest rates - and cost of supporting an ever increasing elderly population is crashing the global system. 


In japan they sell more adult dippers than baby diapers - there is a big demographic crash coming as the elderly don't buy houses and cars and spending other than medical expenses is very restricted.

So maybe we should invest in adult diaper companies? and get out of real estate!
Yip invest in medical facilities, care homes and pharmaceuticals..
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: OzHippy on May 01, 2018, 06:18:03 pm
If WW3 is not started first - the Asian demographic is going to cause major problems....

"No Longer Reversible": China's Low Fertility Rate And Birth Restrictions Set Stage For Disaster
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-30/no-longer-reversible-chinas-low-fertility-rate-and-birth-restrictions-set-stage (https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-04-30/no-longer-reversible-chinas-low-fertility-rate-and-birth-restrictions-set-stage)

(https://www.zerohedge.com/sites/default/files/styles/inline_image_desktop/public/inline-images/china-old-woman-military_0.jpg?itok=wPWYrBSZ)
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: doomsdayprepper4570 on May 02, 2018, 08:16:24 am
Yes, but the ragheads will breed us all out is the problem.
Would take decades of serious culling to stop them now.
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: Gympiegoat on May 06, 2018, 04:37:51 pm
Don't worry. The Africans are stepping up to the plate. Or is that the bed!

https://qz.com/1016790/more-than-hal...frica-by-2050/
Title: Re: Population Density - and other things
Post by: doomsdayprepper4570 on November 12, 2018, 08:09:30 pm
Good god get your block and tackle out of your kitbags and do something
about it! I have seven kids and am done/spent/exhausted/drained etc etc etc.