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kahleesie88

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Losing power
« on: August 11, 2017, 08:19:50 pm »

What do you think would happen if most of qld lost power for an extended period of time next year during summer? Would the sheeple I mean society break down and think it was the end of the world? Would they work together to survive or would it be every person for themselves? After what happened in South Australia (I think it was) with the power grid being overloaded do you think it's a possibility in qld?
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #1 on: August 11, 2017, 08:54:01 pm »

Queenslander!!!!
Maybe it depends on how the media would play it up.
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #2 on: August 11, 2017, 09:11:33 pm »

That's assuming that there's media coverage before it happens...
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #3 on: August 11, 2017, 09:24:33 pm »

Why lose sleep over sheeple, just look after your prepper community.
1.Either stand on your own two feet or buy near a hospital as the Gov. makes sure the grid is solid around them.
2. go solar. & have fuel for cooking. I have 2 year + of LNG & endless firewood around here.
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I doubt the $2 billion figure is correct. That is $6,000+ per household unless Gov. screwed up again. They have done so in the past, but it looks like it includes battery backup.
4. get a battery pack, price is coming down all the time:-  You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #4 on: August 11, 2017, 10:49:22 pm »

Take care of pepper community I like that! OK here goes....
I have it on very good authority that there is a 30% chance that the qld power grid will be overloaded during summer and if this happens (30% chance remember) qld will lose power for a few weeks it was explained to me perfectly and scientifically so naturally I can't remember what was said or how it was explained! But this is the link that was sent to me after the phone call- You are not allowed to view links. Register or Login. au/Electricity/National-Electricity-Market-NEM/Data-dashboard#medium-term-outlook
From what I can gather it's a graph of how much electricity will be needed and how much there will be. Please remember there is only a 30% chance of it happening... I am supposed to keep this quiet so please no sharing on social media!! I just felt like I had to share it with someone my friends and family just think I'm a conspiracy nut... I think they're uninformed and I'd rather prep for it and it not happen then do nothing and it happens 
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #5 on: August 11, 2017, 11:50:53 pm »

Everyone will get indoctrinated via the media to use less for weeks before with a scare campaign!

Several high users will be encouraged to shut down for a few days, for maintenance of course!

Then there is load shedding/sharing.

And last of all there is importing from NSW!

A non event really just look after your own needs on a short term basis!
Gas in the bbq and a deep freezer full of ice
and some battery/gas lighting

An extra large car battery and an inverter to power phones tv dvd etc
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #6 on: August 12, 2017, 03:52:42 am »

Interesting subject, as we had problems down here in Tasmania last year , we have solar setup with 3 deep cycle batteries at home with led light strips in house and shed ,seperate systems but enough to live off plus just doing a recon on old Rayburn 510 combustion stove for setup out the back at home has hot water setup to so no problem once up and running ,up the cabin have combustion stove ,barrel woodheater , at present 2 kva solar setup with led lights etc plus small gas hws ,and a lifetime of firewood , the old motto be prepared at all times ,that is why people have so many problems when shit happens , it's taken years and a lot of hard work but finally feel comfortable that we can get by , he who prepares is prudent ,he who does not is a fool
As for food plenty trout in the river and an abundance of wallaby etc all around  ;D

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Re: Losing power
« Reply #7 on: August 12, 2017, 11:47:46 pm »

I'm from rural SA.  My region lost grid power for 3.5 days due to the storm.  Many large back-up systems for hospitals and supermarkets failed.  Telecommunications and data transmission became very sketchy after 8 hours. 

I took a tour of the nearest regional centre (pop 15k) on day 3 to see how 'the system' was going.

Life rolls on.  People seem to generally help each other out. No spike in crime.

The main shortages were in bottled gas, d cell batteries, gas bbq's, camping supplies, motor fuels, ice and any food requiring refrigeration.  Fridges with temp sensitive medicines at pharmacies etc were kept going with donated gen sets.  Shelf foods remained in good supply and 'opposing' supermarkets co-operated to move foods from sites where back-up generators failed to those where back-up was working. 

Lots of people around here have small camping generators and used them for the first day ... but quickly ran out of fuel.  Farmers had plenty of diesel on hand but petrol was harder to acquire.

On day 3 one servo finally managed to patch a portable workshop gen set into a fuel pump ... the line up to use that pump was about 2km long.   

The feeling/rumours at the time were that grid power would be out for upto 2 weeks, we were all kind of surprised that we got power back as quick as we did.  The reason I point that out is that it's not as though everyone was happily believing the problem was going away quickly.

of course ... the media tried to sensationalize any little negative they could find.


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Re: Losing power
« Reply #8 on: August 13, 2017, 07:38:42 am »

Very good post, Mirage, thanks for that. In fact it mirrors my own experiences during floods in Gympie & Maryborough & Hervey Bay when cut off for 3 & 4 days.

Aussies do tend to help each other. Supermarkets & bakeries here rationed perishables till roads were open again & there were no runs on limited items due to radio broadcasts telling people that meds & life saving stuff would be flown in. Petrol was not a problem as you could not drive far & not many people lost power as substations are no longer in flood areas.
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #9 on: August 13, 2017, 07:44:10 am »

Always good to have a solar system with battery storage and a solar hot water system ;)
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2017, 02:53:23 am »

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Very good post, Mirage, thanks for that. In fact it mirrors my own experiences during floods in Gympie & Maryborough & Hervey Bay when cut off for 3 & 4 days.

Aussies do tend to help each other. Supermarkets & bakeries here rationed perishables till roads were open again & there were no runs on limited items due to radio broadcasts telling people that meds & life saving stuff would be flown in. Petrol was not a problem as you could not drive far & not many people lost power as substations are no longer in flood areas.

We certainly seem to hold it together when challenges present themselves. The influence of Doom Porn seems minimal here as compared with the US.  Over there, social chaos is pretty much a self-fulfilling prophecy.

Only thing I saw here which I thought could have been done a little better was the fuel situation.  Whilst it's his business and his call to make ... the fuel station owner who got one of his pumps going (hero!) probably could have limited each vehicle in the queue to 20 or 30 litres each.  I watched some fit younger folks (quite able to walk and ride bikes) fill up their patrols and landcruisers with 1-4 jerry cans of extra besides ... while at the rear of the queue more 'car dependent' pensioners in their little cars may not have got any fuel. (I only observed this location for about 10 minutes though, so maybe what I saw was was not representative of the entire action.)

Last minute hoarding just makes a difficult situation worse ... unfortunately it's a common behavior. 

I bet there are 20 or 30 people in my region that are sitting on a combined total of 3000 D cell batteries purchased in haste in September last year! ;D ;D ;D

Thus I do my hoarding well before the need arises, both to avoid the hassles myself and avoid adding to other peoples problems. 
 

 
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #11 on: December 04, 2017, 07:36:13 am »

I am set bring it on!
6 months np, 12 months even better.
Let us see what happens at the next election after that bitter pill and culture shock.
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #12 on: December 04, 2017, 10:52:13 am »

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What do you think would happen if most of qld lost power for an extended period of time next year during summer? Would the sheeple I mean society break down and think it was the end of the world? Would they work together to survive or would it be every person for themselves? After what happened in South Australia (I think it was) with the power grid being overloaded do you think it's a possibility in qld?

no big deal.  Here in SA we do things like "rolling blackouts" when they get low in power (they switch the power off for an hour or two in certain areas when its overly hot and their system is getting overloaded).   Other times they've allowed us to draw in from interstate.

Power issues are not uncommon in SA in summer some years

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The only time it really started to become an issue for SA was when there was bad storms which had many places in blackout for 2-3 days which stopped people AND EMERGENCY SERVICES being able to get petrol easily as the fuel pumps don't work.  The ambulance service was really slowed down as they were having trouble getting fuel (they ended up being even lower on ambulances then normal due to the fuel situation).  Our hospitals just switch over to using generators during blackouts. 

Most people (general society) didn't care much about a 2-3 day blackout.
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« Reply #13 on: December 04, 2017, 01:24:49 pm »

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I am set bring it on!
6 months np, 12 months even better.
Let us see what happens at the next election after that bitter pill and culture shock.
We are set so YES bring it on  :)
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Re: Losing power
« Reply #14 on: December 04, 2017, 06:10:15 pm »

SA lost power due to very high winds and the wind turbines had to be shut down as they cant handle very high winds.  The the interstate feed was overloaded and failed.  The power grid is very susceptible to EMP/CME.


The big storms that hit the east coast of Australia in 2015 saw power out in some neighbourhoods for 2 weeks.  People and supermarkets were giving perishable food away as it was going off after a few days.  All the candles, generators, tarps, chainsaws were sold out of the shops and people were complaining.  Medication became a problem a lot of society cant function without medication.  Big ques at Mackers that had a generator going.  People did their nuts as FB and internet was down.  Looters were there within 2 days targeting houses that were abandoned due to tree branches going through the roof.


We live in a entitled generation where the gov must fix things, pay salary if out of work etc..  If power is out over an extended area they will make a big stink and then start looting - there is not enough security to deal with wide spread looting and rioting.  If looting break out in 3 shopping areas in the same  district the police would be overwhelmed, never mid half a state.  There is a huge reliance on security cameras to prevent and catch offenders.  When that is gone then things go downhill very quickly. 
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